tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post6043458393952471610..comments2024-03-09T00:14:53.202-08:00Comments on Amuse-Biatch: Tom Colicchio Is Sick of Team Challenges, Blames Jon Stewart for the Profanity on “Top Chef” and Among the Youth of AmericaCharlushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07649921327388157684noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-37798516068312761272008-05-19T21:59:00.000-07:002008-05-19T21:59:00.000-07:00yay mary!yay mary!hughmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09995638646423120399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-67934812708915371312008-05-19T16:19:00.000-07:002008-05-19T16:19:00.000-07:00Mary, please spill the beans... is he really that ...Mary, please spill the beans... is he really that full of himself? what a blowhard!<BR/><BR/>Yes, he was actually worse than what was shown on Top Chef. He was a horrid chef and just ass kissed the teaching chefs. He was jealous of the good chefs in our class and would try to sabatoge them. He was too dumb to do that well, though. He thought/thinks he is God's gift to women and if you happen to be a woman who disagrees, "there is something wrong with you or you are a lez." He is a douchbag. He has a horrible reputation in San Francisco. Did you notice how many chefs did not like him and had a history with him? That was no accident. He is a fake and dumb ass.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11180341976826229306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-6913844231284141282008-05-18T08:55:00.000-07:002008-05-18T08:55:00.000-07:00You hit the nail on the head: the challenges are d...You hit the nail on the head: the challenges are dreadful, trite, and boring. Look, these chefs are no more obnoxious or less talented than chefs in other seasons, but I am sick of the team competitions and contests that stand in for barely concealed advertisements. Let's get a meaty show in there. On top of which, why give the chefs such a short time to create the wedding buffets? What was the point? I want to see them shine, not droop and look half dead. Would one extra day have hurt Bravo? It certainly would please this viewer to see great cooking as opposed to a race to exhaustion finish. Also, why place the show in Chicago when they take so little advantage of that city? The fault for this lackluster season lies squarely on the Bravo producer's shoulders.<BR/><BR/>As for kids in the kitchen? Meh. I don't even like to see them in commercials. And Andy Cohen? Will someone drag him away from in front of the camera - please?Vichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13668098318085667188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-61132285780063214422008-05-17T18:08:00.000-07:002008-05-17T18:08:00.000-07:00I hate Andy Cohen with a vengeance. I almost threw...I hate Andy Cohen with a vengeance. I almost threw up trying to watch that interview as he continually says, "yeah, yep, yeah, yeah, yep". God he is an objectionable little queen. Stay off the air.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-73167377916879211422008-05-17T13:46:00.000-07:002008-05-17T13:46:00.000-07:00chicago is also a place with great ethnic markets ...chicago is also a place with great ethnic markets in most of its neighborhoods. and yet, they only shop in whole foods boystown. reliable sources tell me that it is the most fabulous whole foods in existence (of course it is!) but i'd rather see them at paulina meat market or stanley's produce, really doing something interesting and interacting with the culinary community here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-57806815827053914882008-05-17T08:30:00.000-07:002008-05-17T08:30:00.000-07:00This season is meh because they haven't had the op...This season is meh because they haven't had the opportunity to show how good they can be. Give them limitations (like working with offal, or other unusual foods), but not straitjackets (like the stupid common threads thing). Ideally, the conditions would be such that you send home the least good. At least when you're down to eight chefs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-80092884396025632452008-05-17T07:29:00.000-07:002008-05-17T07:29:00.000-07:00If the swearing is generational, then is Tony Bour...If the swearing is generational, then is Tony Bourdain an anomaly for chefs in his age group?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-67689414253917938272008-05-16T19:30:00.000-07:002008-05-16T19:30:00.000-07:00yeah, i think the term "cussing" says it all.yeah, i think the term "cussing" says it all.hughmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09995638646423120399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-6113940409958338782008-05-16T19:24:00.000-07:002008-05-16T19:24:00.000-07:00I totally disagree with your assessment of this se...I totally disagree with your assessment of this season being worse than others. Of course, if you loved the seasons where they could barely cook (season 1) or they tried to kill each other (season 2) I guess you would think this season was boring. <BR/><BR/>As for the cussing this generation certainly cusses more than others. I believe it is because they have gotten so dulled by the constant cussing in songs and cable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-77306200731529266752008-05-16T18:30:00.000-07:002008-05-16T18:30:00.000-07:00well Diana, i agree (since you mentioned me!) and ...well Diana, i agree (since you mentioned me!) and disagree on some points. <BR/><BR/>my thinking the show has become meh has nothing to do with the women involved at all. in fact, an All Female cast would be totally a cool idea. however the show has pushed even the women to the role of "mother cook" and "saver cook" to the forefront and not given them the showcase they deserve. indeed it seems it panders to the Food Network ideal of meals in thirty minutes and how to make do with hamburger for your family. <BR/><BR/>i don't know if Tom should be booted (he has become, after all, part of the "brand") but i agree he's out of his mind about the language and MTV/Jon Stewart. when you think of Jon Stewart, you don't think of curse words off the bat. so that was a weird reference.<BR/><BR/>kids are cute. over there. in someone else's care. as a gay man, i applaud others efforts to raise kids - straight and gay people alike - but i'm not interested in one eating my nibbbly things at cocktail hour. so keep pushing out the gay kids and keep a steady stream of Project Runway finalists coming out of the school system and we'll all be happy. <BR/><BR/>Yay team!hughmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09995638646423120399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-32238958790108624802008-05-16T17:11:00.000-07:002008-05-16T17:11:00.000-07:00I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say th...I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that the reason people think the show has become "blah" and "meh" is that, for once, the women are coming out on top and not the men. Antonia, Stephanie, and Lisa can all cook circles around Dale even while drunk and/or stoned and with both hands tied behind their backs. And even Richard "Everyone Acts as Though I am the Second Coming" Blais is no match for Stephanie, the strongest of the women. I'm sorry, but the "haute cuisine" world is incredibly sexist. (You left scales on your fish homeboy?! That's the most boneheaded "first week of culinary school" mistake EVER)<BR/><BR/>And, ummm, HELLO, contradiction much? Colicchio himself posted on his blog that he recognizes that chefs are a "salty breed" (with examples like Gordon Ramsay and Anthony Bourdain, as Hughman pointed out, the breed is QUITE SALTY INDEED). And now he's pointing fingers at the MTV generation for the constant swearing on TC? Give. Me. A. Break. Methinks it's time to pick a new head judge. Monsieur Colicchio, as far as I'm concerned, has worn out his welcome.<BR/><BR/>One last thing: Charlus, kitten. If children ceased to exist, then where shall we find the next generation of catty Gay men? ;-) When you leave us (a long long long time from now, of course), who shall remain to fill your (no doubt expensive and quite stylish) shoes? ;-) Has that thought ever crossed your mind?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-37408391402341402692008-05-16T13:56:00.000-07:002008-05-16T13:56:00.000-07:00"I only watched because I went to culinary school ..."I only watched because I went to culinary school with Ryan"<BR/><BR/>Mary, please spill the beans... is he really that full of himself? what a blowhard!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-90075746407316182732008-05-16T13:22:00.000-07:002008-05-16T13:22:00.000-07:00It was "meh" because it was one long commercial! ...It was "meh" because it was one long commercial! Uncle Ben's, GLAD, and whatever else was being hawked. This is my first and last season with the show, because it's boring. I only watched because I went to culinary school with Ryan. I do think Chef Tom is cute though.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11180341976826229306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-17284155482726501072008-05-16T10:51:00.000-07:002008-05-16T10:51:00.000-07:00I guess with good manners, understanding dry humor...I guess with good manners, understanding dry humor is out the window as well. Oh yeah, Mark LITERALLY expected Tom to knock on the door and buy him a beer. He was obviously kidding, something our culture does not get at all.<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah, the swearing is generational. I couldn't possibly be because:<BR/><BR/>1. Reality shows are like the worst version of high school, with bullying (a-hem) and judgemental attitudes, except you're on freakin' television where everyone can see you screw up.<BR/><BR/>2. Cameras are following you into your bedroom and bathroom filming you doing yoga, putting on underwear or brushing your teeth.<BR/><BR/>3. You get one outlet - booze - to help you feel better.<BR/><BR/>No, these things wouldn't make me curse. Not at all. (Dry humor. Get it, America?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-55617562693842276592008-05-16T09:23:00.000-07:002008-05-16T09:23:00.000-07:00@4:16 - it's "meh" because it's BORING as hell. th...@4:16 - it's "meh" because it's BORING as hell. the challenges are mostly blah, product placement insane and inept (Uncle Ben's to the rescue for a 15 min dish? really?) and overall not testing chefs but cooks<BR/><BR/>AB is spot on with the post and overall Rachael Ray spirit of mediocrity and commerce looming large. guest chefs picked are mostly an outrage with the exception of Gale Gand and Paul Kahan. why drag Wylie Dufresne to CHicago is you have Achatz, Cantu, etc. right there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-56707424025275022552008-05-16T07:26:00.000-07:002008-05-16T07:26:00.000-07:00I with Buzz Kill, as the father of a young girl, I...I with Buzz Kill, as the father of a young girl, I do, from time to time, try to cook with my kid. I hope it helps future woman accept that household duties should be shared and its quality time with the kid. But these periods do not result in high cuisine. Pasta, baking, etc. When daddy is six burner deep in a dinner party, sweeties knows to stay in the play room.<BR/><BR/>So, I find it really hard to see how cooking with kids is Top Chef material. Cooking FOR kids, maybe. <BR/><BR/>As for the swearing, I haven't done a statistical study of all the episodes, but it seems that aside from the occasional anger outburst with screwed up burners and quickfire losses, that the swearing is down in the last few episodes. Maybe they re-edited?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-72259181971755138222008-05-16T07:08:00.000-07:002008-05-16T07:08:00.000-07:00I too thought the Common Threads epissode was one ...I too thought the Common Threads epissode was one of the worst in TC history. It had nothing to do with being a top chef and everything to do with making a feel-good, aw-look-at-the-kids-cooking, Oprah and Uncle Ben's promoting shmarm fest. I really felt sorry for the chefs when that heard of slobbering kids came hoofing into the kitchen and they realized, "crap, this just turned into a bad Brady Bunch episode."<BR/><BR/>I'm the aledged father of 2 boys and they know better than to come int the kitchen when dad's cooking (and drinking). And I whole heartedly agree that "Children of the Corn and Village of the Damned are documentaries." That's funny.Buzz Killhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01443964019621130222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-10068572007616733942008-05-15T18:02:00.000-07:002008-05-15T18:02:00.000-07:001. "hard season to get your hands around" heh heh....1. "hard season to get your hands around" heh heh. <BR/><BR/>2. does andy have a pocket square in his shirt pocket? um... no.<BR/><BR/>3. andy's job as Prez of Teh Gayz in Manhattan is getting him grayer. i like it.<BR/><BR/>4. yeah, this season does seem very Mall of the Americas. is it really that hard to think of better and more interesting challenges? really? would it kill them to have to use foie gras in a Quickfire Challenge? chicago, as a whole, seems to have really very relevance to this season, so what was the point? pizza promos? then for the finale they leave and go to Puerto Rico? yeah, that REEKS of chicago. <BR/><BR/>5. tom talks about "new Zealand cuisiine" but frankly. who really knows about NZ cuisine? maybe the hobbit could have enlightened us a bit. for all i know it involves head bands and bubble baths. <BR/><BR/>6. cursing is a part of "this generation"? huh? where do Gordon Ramsey and Anthony Bourdain fit in that generalization? they both curse like sailors but are of Tom's "generation" at least. that makes no sense. <BR/><BR/>overall, i thought this season was meh-a-go-go. i can't even remember one dish anyone cooked overall. it was mostly constructed drama and cafeteria food. that even a sous chef at Le Cirque came off so poorly says a lot.hughmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09995638646423120399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-5741707320961716442008-05-15T16:18:00.000-07:002008-05-15T16:18:00.000-07:00i do agree with you on the chicago stereotyping, b...i do agree with you on the chicago stereotyping, but that happens on all reality shows (and all dramas) about all cities. "oh, new york, it's so wonderful, it's where everything is!" "oh, paris so so pretty!" ugggg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35759387.post-25087542513081028122008-05-15T16:16:00.000-07:002008-05-15T16:16:00.000-07:00i have re-watched all of season 3 on youtube and a...i have re-watched all of season 3 on youtube and am beginning to re-watching season 2, and while the cooking here seems to be better than in season 2 and the people less catty, i don't see why season 4 is "meh," it doesn't strike me as much different from past seasons. i feel like what happens on reality shows is that if the first season gets popular, people declare it the gold standard and always say that any other season is crappy. then if people do happen to like another season, and switch the gold standard from season one to a later season, the season that immediately follows the new standard is declared much worse, and i'm not such these comparisons between seasons really mean that much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com